How about this definition?
How did this thread about EVâs, 105 posts ago, get skewed into who pays enough taxes?
Your statement doesnât make sense, but if youâre asking if I ever received money from the government based on my income, the answer is no.
If you are asking if I ever received money from the government for any reason, the answer is yes, I received the same Covid Relief funds that most Americans received. And I gave it all away (+) to people who needed it more than I did, and, I didnât take any tax deductions for doing it. And I received a paycheck from the US government when I served in the US Navy.
Can you say the same?
Obviously itâs because people are interested in talking about the subject.
The graph below and a $10 calculator will help you understand why the answer to our tax problems canât be solved by having people with no money left after monthly expenses pay what you consider their share of what it takes to run our country.
From USAFacts.org
Somewhere about post 80
Heh, thanks. Most threads go off the track after 50, or so. This one took longer
Spending 7.5billion on 7 EV charging stations would be a start.
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It hasnât been spent! Donât you remember your original complaint? Only a few charging stations have been built so far. 
7.5billion allocated or spent⌠its gone .
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McKinsey & Co.'s Mobility Consumer Pulse for 2024, released this month, found that 46% of EV owners in the U.S. said they were âveryâ likely to switch back to owning a gas-powered vehicle in their next purchase.
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I didnât know I could sell my book(s) here. Iâll get my list together.
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Lemme guess at the titles⌠âBig Oil is Your Friend,â ⌠âNo, it Ainât Hot, Itâs your Imagination,â and " The Ocean Isnât Rising⌠the Land is Sinking From Overpopulation!."
Actually nothing to do with EVs, Energy or climate.
But apparently since we can advertise products for sale here and direction on how to purchase I was getting an Ebay list together.
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I know this is apples - and - oranges comparison, but it seems like the auto industry has taken every bit of fuel economy / carbon reducing technology and has turned it upside-down⌠they have abused it by spending those savings getting us hooked on larger, more powerful, faster vehicles. I guess I know why, so they can normalize the $75,000 vehicle and the $1,000 car payment and youâre upside-down when you replace, so youâre forever their wage slave. Sorry, I guess I answered my own question.
I just canât help to think if we drove 1980s sized vehicles with 2024 engine tech, what average MPG would they get? Guessing at it, 75? Actually close, I think, to the EV âequivalent MPGâ, which is over 100.
As I am in Houston, I donât think our grid can really take any more EVs. Itâs SO fragile and not just during storms. We go down all the time. ERCOT asks us to conserve any old day. Itâs maddening and it makes me want to leave. But Iâm still working.
I think ICE-car technology has been taken very close to itâs limits. Itâs similar to where we are with digital computing, the end is in sight for both technologies.
In terms of acceleration, assisted driving and overall day-to-day transportation use, EVâs have it all over ICE cars in all categories except long-range trips.
The problems that the state of Texas has with their electrical grid is more political than it is technological. As Iâm sure that, as a resident, you are very aware of that painful fact. Itâs a great example of the âwe donât like govt telling us what to doâ syndrome.
The first electric car in America was in about 1891.
In the past, almost everyone owned a horse and only rich people owned a car. Now most everyone can have a car but the rich own the horses.
âThese vehicles need to be profitable,â Lawler said. âIf theyâre not profitable based on where the customer is â where the market is â we will pivot and adjust.â
Ford is also reducing spending on EVs to 30% of capital expenditures from 40% previously.
In addition to the canceled EVs, Ford is pushing back production of its next full-size electric pickup truck to late 2027. Output of that vehicle was planned to start next year at Fordâs new EV assembly complex in Tennessee.
This reminds me of when Delta tried to get into the discount airline model with a brand called Song. They trashed it after a couple of years and admitted that they did not have the cost structure to support it. I think its very hard for a historical ICE manufacturer to branch into EVs.