Coming from a co called, https://electrek.co/.
Heh, no bias there.
Care to make a bet on what news source is quoted most in this thread?
A source claims [right or wrong] EV cars
are better than ICE, and they just happen to sell podcasts, newsletters, etc, promoting EV’s.
Possible bias? Naw
This was posted to the same site the day before. Elektrek.co seems to be a lot more “Fair and Balanced” than the other “news” source.
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I don’t know how you get more fair and balanced than local news media interviewing frustrated EV owners live at charging stations in sub-zero weather.
Why does Hertz unload 20,000 EVs and use some of the proceeds to buy ICE vehicles?
How much money has the source had to cough up for publishing lies and untruths and have multi-billion-dollar libel lawsuits pending against them?
Ray Epps… Dominion Software… Smartmatic … vs …GUESS WHO?
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It’s not that it’s unfair reporting in and of itself. It’s when you present that reporting to help prove the point that EVs are useless.
News stories are aired because they attract eyeballs and if they are just about routine stuff, you don’t get that audience. It’s a man bites dog kind of thing. There are thousands of cold-weather ICE car failures in the US every year but because they are routine events they are seldom included in the nightly news.
A large part of the misinformation and misleading information is underwritten by the big fossil fuel interests. They have the most to lose, and they will wreak tremendous damage to our planet. Your posterity will pay the price for our destructive ways.
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From my prior post:
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Also… Tesla has made heat pumps standard on all new models. My 2022 Volvo BEV has one and I would advise against buying a BEV that did not come with a heat pump.
Here’s a 2018 article explaining why heat pumps are a good thing:
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Its interesting when a publication thats not in the business is able to tell someone in the business they are doing it wrong.
The first 1:25 tells us all we need to know… Hertz was losing too much money with EVs… supply was overdone for the demand.
The Hertz CEO, as your linked video at 0:35 shows, stated that Hertz made a “bold move” by ordering 100,000 Teslas. At 3:30 in your video he states that Hertz management’s decision was likely too early in assuming that BEV’s were the the best choice for a rental car, and that it has not happened yet, but that it will happen.
The article I posted, which was published last August, simply pointed out that treating a BEV as you would any other car and not giving the rental site personnel sufficient training was a mistake. The fourth paragraph stated:
,–begin excerpt–> "There’s too much of a learning curve, and forcing the customer to spend their time charging prior to vehicle return is a cost that makes consumers less willing to pay as much for the car itself. Hertz charges customers in their time, effort, and confusion and so has to lower rates as a result.
- Most people haven’t driven an EV yet. They haven’t figured out EV charging yet. And it’s not worth the learning curve for a one-off. That’s true whether renting from Hertz or not.
- However EV charging takes time. People are usually in a rush on the way to the airport. Who wants to seek out a charging station near the airport and then spend 20 or more minutes there? It’s annoying enough to have to get guess, but this takes longer!" ,–end excerpt–>
Which, by the way, is EXACTLY the reason that Hertz’s CEO states, at 4:30 in your video, the reasons that Hertz;s first foray into the BEV rental market ran into problems.
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Totally irrelevant to my post.
“Whatabought” debates are a silly waste of time.
The free market should decide what to buy, not the gov’t.
I disagree… it is totally relevant to it, here’s what you said and what I responded to:
It’s all about your post. You claimed that the info you didn’t agree with was “biased.”
The definition of bias in the context of statistical information is " a systematic distortion of a statistical result due to a factor not allowed for in its source.
And in this thread you have posted links three times from the same FOX NEWS that I referred to in the post about FOX having to pay out megabucks for their deceptive, lying and biased publications.
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I don’t agree that is what he is saying here. Of EVs in the rental market it will be Tesla that will be the choice, not that EVs will be the choice over ICE. (If in fact a choice remains.) If he is saying EVs over ICE as you suggest he has no better idea which will dominate than you or me do.
With EV technology in its current state common sense will dictate not many people going on a vacation road trip or a business road trip will want to carve time out of that to manage the inconvenience of time management when it comes to charging issues with an EV. Especially if they are going to a very cold climate as the Chicagoland folks have demonstrated.
And none of those issues will change unless EV manufacturers can defy the laws of physics. Again I refer to the Chicagoland folks this week.
It will be interesting to see when Hertz is into their next fiscal if they don’t unload another third of their EV fleet.
Remember that ICE cars now have an arrow on the dash to show the driver which side the fuel flap is on. After someone buys a vehicle, it is pretty obvious which side to fill it. The arrows help those who only occasionally drive that vehicle, like CAR RENTAL people.
I personally would have to sit and go through the whole manual if I rented a EV and keep in mind, the rental people usually remove the owners manual from all vehicles. So unless I was an EV owner, I would not know where the chargers are, how they work, what happens if (whatever) happens.
If I am renting a car, I expect to use it, not sit by while I wait for it to charge, while paying to wait for it to charge.
I am not saying I would not drive an EV, but there is a learning curve and my time is limited. Also, unless I get LOTS of solar batteries on the roof, I can’t charge a vehicle here because our electric cost is the highest in the nation. Utah and 4 other states are 11 cents per KWh. We are 42 cents (about 4 times that rate).
Here’s what he said starting at 03:17 in the video:
→ At some point the reality of EVs and Teslas being the best selling car will, at some point, render them to be the best rental car, it’s not yet. We may have been ahead of ourselves in the context of how quickly that will happen, but that will happen. ← 3:31
Again, totally irrelevant to the article about EV’s.
And “Yeah but whatabout” debates are a waste of time.
Wouldn’t it be a decision you would base on the difference between the price of both gasoline and electricity? At your latitude and given the price of electricity where you live, I’d think you’d have a strong case for a solar system.
I am helping my Sisters set up solar at their off-the-grid cottage. I will soon (finally) hook up my solar system, except my system must be connected to the grid but does not feed back into it. It used the grid to esure there is power there. If there isn’t my system shuts down, thus not feeding into the grid and thus not requiring to get any OK from the power company. Being old, it did not have capability to directly connect to batteries, but does product 120 VAC which feeds back into the house. Kinda a neat idea where I can offset some local power with solar. I guess I could take some of that 120 VAC and charge batteries but then would need t oconvert that back to120 which is no efficient.
Note that this system shown in the video is newer than the 1st series I have. Still, you get the idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCkDV0AfU0
On my farm, the panels can be ground mounted and don’t have to be on the roof. That saves money and eliminates holes in the roof!