Big difference, ICE fires can be readily put out, often by the motorists own fire extinguisher. Contrarily, the accepted means of handling an EV fire is to let the burn out, removing any other nearby vehicles IF POSSIBLE. I won’t park near an EV and am awaiting major insurance, vehicle and homeowners’ resulting from the combustion of parked EVs that take the home and probably family with it while charging or just resting overnight. Yes the EV unit efficiency is high, but before the juice gets to it, a lot of coal, oil, gas is burned along the production chain. The only reason EVs even exist are because of the huge government (aka forced taxpayer) cash input into production of the product, its motive power, etc. It is not self-sustaining, and now further taxation on non-owners is on the horizon to compensate for lack of fuel taxes by from the EV freeloaders on our highways.
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Bob, Lansdale
Currently, 32 states charge an EV tax (easily looked up) to make up for the loss in revenue from gas taxes. More will follow. Like many of these states, I pay higher fees for my plugin which add up to MORE than I would pay in gas taxes. Clark has often said that the additional fees he pays for his Tesla are much more than he would pay in gas taxes for his ICE car. So, your general statement about EV freeloaders is without merit.
While most BEVs have a one-speed motor-to-road setup and produce enough torque to move the vehicle from a dead stop to highway speeds using from zero to 10,000 or even 20,000 RPM,
But an ICE vehicle must use a system of clutches and different gear ratios in a complicated automatic or manual transmission between the engine and the road. . That’s because an automotive ICE gasoline engine does not produce sufficient torque to drive the wheels and move the car reliably until it reaches 1,000 to 2,000 RPM and max out at less than 8-9k, after that things start coming apart. Most modern ICE cars come with 5-speed transmissions and some have up to eight. More shifts equal more friction. And friction between the crankshaft and the road of an ICE car costs efficiency and lower efficiency equals more fuel expense.
In short, it’s an indisputable fact that BEVs use energy much more efficiently than ICE cars. It’s not even close…
Electricity is a form of potential energy, so is gasoline. Both have production costs.
I pay 10 cents a kWh and one kWh takes me a little over 2 miles in my BEV, that’s 4.5 cents a mile.
I just paid $3.80 a gal for gasoline at Costco and that gallon of gasoline will take me approximately 22 around-town miles. That’s 17.2 cents a mile.
When I stopped by Costco to fill the ICE car’s tank on the way home from having the oil changed, ($38.45) and the brake fluid replaced, ($105.00.)
My BEV will never need an engine oil change and I use the brakes maybe once or twice during a typical around-town trip, I 'm pretty sure the brakes will last the life of the car because I usually get 60-90 thousand miles on brakes in an ICE car. My BEV scheduled maintenance is once every two years.
I have to assume that Costco has priced the gasoline they sold me for more than what they have paid for it. That means that all the costs associated with it, including production and distribution are less than the $3.80/gal I paid. The same goes for the electricity I buy from my utility company which would include production and transmission to my house.
So how would electricity costs vs gasoline costs affect the accuracy of my comparison?
If you include electrical generation and transmission efficiency, wouldn’t you also have to include gasoline production and distribution efficiency as well? How would you do that other than the costs incurred in both cases?
Our capitalist system of cost and margin usually compensates for most costs related to real efficiency. The exceptions are usually driven by societal considerations and typically applied using tax breaks and/or penalties.
They drained the brake fluid, flushed the system and replaced the brake fluid with new. That’s done periodically so that moisture and contaminates don’t cause corrosion and/or wear in the wheel and master cylinders and pistons. That’s the major reason older brake systems fail.
Since retirement I don’t drive very much. But in my working life, as an outside salesperson and RE broker I drove 25-50 thousand miles a year and my record was 75,000 in one year. I’ve never had to replaces pads or shoes before 75-90 thousand miles on my personal cars which ranged from a Porsche 911 to a Ford 3/4 ton P/U.
Most of the energy burning gas in an Ice car is simply waste heat. EVs are > than 80% efficient in converting energy to the motor. Gas is put in the tank and burned up, not very smart with a finite commodity. Lithium batteries are endlessly recyclable recovering 80% of the lithium and > 95% of other metals. Yes they use electricity but as the source of that becomes greener, they become cleaner. It is true that they require more GHG to manufacture, but after a time, there is a break even point after which gas cars continue to pollute and EVs are much cleaner, as much as 50% more. Consider that oil and gas is HEAVILY subsidized keeping prices artificially low compared to other countries. A lot of electricity is expended to get oil out of the ground, in refining, in shipping to gas stations and the environmental effects of fossil fuels is catastrophic.
Not in a million years will i buy an EV. It takes 2.2 million liters of water to make one ton of lithium, enough for approx 90 cars, and the cobalt that is needed, 75% comes from africa, mined my Chinese companys using children and elderly at maybe a dollar a day wages, and no ppe equipment for these modern day slaves. What is the use of fresh air, if u have no fresh water? No recycling programs for the batteries. You have to drive an EV for approx 8 years before it becomes "carbon neutral " or environmentally friendly, oh! But wait! U will need to replace the batteries before then probably. So it never really becomes carbon neutral. How about the resale value? How about what it will do to Joes mechanic shop? How about what it will do to tourism? Hiw about used car dealers? Not to mention cold climates, dust on electronics, ect. The internal combustion engine is the only thing to use. Seeing as they now have bio jet fuels that put out 80% less pollution, its just a matter of time before we have better fuels for the internal combustion engine. I could go on, but i am sure there r knowit alls who will tell me I am wrong. And city folk are far more easy to tell lies to and they believe them.
Please, please, please… DO NOT buy one. There’s hardly enough to supply the people that DO want to buy one. If you keep your promise you’ll help us all.
FYI: Here’s an article about the ideal car for you. It shows six cars with TWO internal combustion engines!..
When there is an electric bicycle which will carry a touring load on a 100 mile ride, with the human putting in half the power and battery putting in half, I’m getting one. Then I’d like to go on tour with it. If I do, I’ll post pictures.
EVs will only survive with customers who are wealthy and middle-class. EVs will ultimately lose the middle class within the next two years as electricity prices continue to go through the roof. Gas/Hybrid was the perfect solution. In 5 years, there will be some pics of EV junkyards and how fuc… up they are making the environment with the dangerous metals they contain. Just look up a fire of an EV vs Gas/hybrid vehicle. EV is much worse for environment…
