To much savings going to retirement

Do you think it is possible to save to much money into your retirement accounts?

We are doing the following:

  1. Max out two 401k for a combined total of $54,000.
  2. Wife’s 401K allows an additional after tax contributions of $10,000 which we take advantage of.
  3. Max out two Roth IRA’s for a combined total of $14,000.

Total contributions of $78,000.

We are saving around 60% to 70%. Is that too much?

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Methinks it’s impossible to save “too much” money.

Of course assuming you don’t neglect your health, good meals, family, etc.

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Agree with Rob’t I don’t think it is possible to have too much, but you could very well wind up to heavy in the “qualified” category aka regular IRA . In that category you have deferred taxes and not paid any at all, so the gov’t is going to treat distributions as so-called ordinary “income” and expect you to pay tax since you did not.

In my building years, Roth did not exist so we wound up heavy in the regular IRA. Hit 70 or so and gov’t expects Required Minimum Distributions to be taken each year, and of course you have to confess “income” in the year you take them. One big exception is the Qualified Charitable Distribution where neither you nor your charity pays “income” tax on it. Opinion here is if you accrue so much that an RMD exceeds the limit for a QCD ($100k/year) that is too much. I for one am happy to have “not too much” but also other resources such as Roth, so I can (so far) give away all my RMD. If I really need some of it, of course I can take it and confess the tax.

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Your question suggests that you don’t have a numerical retirement plan — what are you using to determine how much to save, how to invest, and what to expect as your standard of living? I used to use the Schwab tool, have moved over to Fidelity retirement planner, and also use FIRECALC.com

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Never used it, so maybe it’s great. However, my ex-coworkers get together once every year and after all the catchup chat, finances becomes a topic. Almost without exception, everyone agrees they spend less in retirement than they expected.

Two expenses can kill your retirement budget:
entertainment [travel, dining, etc]
family

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I am just maxing out as much money as we can. We do live in expensive state and probably retire here.

So trying to build a huge nest egg :nest_with_eggs:!

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Anecdotes are interesting and can lead you down a path of inquiry, but you must do the math. Retirement study after retirement study all conclude that less than half of near retirees have even tried to calculate how much they will need for retirement. Yes, and due to inflation a 70 year old recent retiree might think they saved too much but by 85 they have to move in with kids because their budget no longer works. Please don’t be that person.

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Good for you…!

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Thanks, but believe me, I won’t.

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You can’t save too much, but you didn’t mention the biggest factor, your age.

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55 and wife is 53

Retirement goals 7 to 9 years.

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Onchotona noted that " you must do the math". How much have you saved? During your decumulation years, what are your projected expenses including any donations to charity and any assets to heirs?
Many of the retirement calculators should serve your purpose. The first link is Rob Berger’s opinion of the best retirement calculators. The second link is an extensive list of retirement calculators.

https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Retirement_calculators_and_spending

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I would say no…

You could always use Rule 72t to withdraw funds if you can retire earlier…

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If you’re scrimping to save and not enjoying life now, then continue that after you retire because it’s become a habit, then yes, you can save too much money. If not, then it’s better to have too much than not enough.

My husband just retired and we learned a lot going thru the process. Wish we had known what we learned sooner! For instance, if you take SS early at 62, your benefit check will be less since you started early. But also if you quit contributing early, your benefits are reduced. Double ding. If you go online and get a SS account, you can access your work record and contributions thus far and play with the numbers to estimate what your monthly benefit would be if you retired at 60 and started taking at 62, or whatever scenario you want to try.

Income tax rates are low right now, likely to be higher in the future. So, consider a Roth 401(k) instead of traditional. Pay lower taxes now, withdraw tax free in the future (assuming Congress doesn’t change that benefit of Roths).

Before retirement, we were able to pay health insurance premiums with pre-tax dollars, but now we can’t. I’m not sure if that applies to everyone, but see if it does for you, or in your planning pencil in paying Fed and State taxes on an extra $5000-$10000 a year to be safe.

I recommend getting a retirement calculator! They’re great. Can suck up your weekends, though. :slight_smile:

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The 2017 tax cuts expire 12/31/2025 they go back to how they were before. That’s an important date. You get more Roth conversion benefit in 2022 23 24 and 25.

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Do you have any other investments? Emergency funds? CDs?

Is $78,000 all that you have saved total for retirement or is that what you put in the last year and keep intending to put ?

$78 k is great in one year.

If you save too much and find out you have too much, you can learn to be more generous…:grinning:
That is a great thing, but can be challenging to do, as habits are hard to be broken.

Are your funds invested in target retirement funds?

Keep up the good work.

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78k is what we are putting into the four retirement accounts this year and we been maxing the four accounts since 2020 with catch ups.

Before we were amore conservative on our contributions to the 401k plan.

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Take advantage of your last higher income years in savings toward retirement, as well as to help increase your Social Security benefits in the future.

Wes Moss recommends multiple income buckets. More money buckets lowers your risk of one bucket income takes a dip, (Example, a rental property vacancy) The dividend bucket and social security bucket are still normal.

It’s normally harder to add money for retirement, after you’ve left your last job, although many people are able to freelance once they retire.

God luck. I retired at 63 and wife at 61 and we haven’t looked back! We love retirement and traveling. We loved our work, but we love our retirement.

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You really didn’t know those things until your husband retired? I feel like I’ve known both of those things forever (which is obviously an exaggeration, but it’s been many years), and I won’t be eligible to retire early for another 15 years.

Probably not true for the vast majority of people because they have less income during retirement than before, and because of the effect of marginal tax rates (contributions save taxes from the highest bracket, withdrawals fill the lower brackets first). For super-savers like OP, it probably is true.

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You just have to run the numbers with a good retirement planning tool that uses “Monte Carlo” simulation and accounts for inflation. Otherwise it’s all speculation and guessing. There is no way to know if you’re ok just because you’re saving $78k annually recently. Just run the numbers. If you’re not willing to, please stop asking all of us here online, because we haven’t the information to possibly make any type of informed commentary on your situation.

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