Sounds like an infomercial to me. In 46 years of practice, never heard of anything similar. Poor nutrition can be ONE factor in gum disease. Actually, gum disease is best described as a hyper-immune response to bacteria and their toxic byproducts. Immune response varies tremendously between patients.
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Henrius, what are you implying? I recommend a provider that has revolutionized my life and you accuse me of Infomercial? Isn’t that what forums are for? Modern Medical Professionals are woefully ignorant of healthy living, as I have been a victim of their ignorance. People on here have offered to come to your office. Is that not infomercial?
Periodontal disease is essentially a hyper-immune response, not an under-immune response. The immune system hyper-reacts to bacteria and their byproducts.
Nutritional deficiency reduces collagen synthesis and can contribute to gum disease. So can uncontrolled diabetes. I have not examined you, but what you describe sounds like a lot of holistic quackery that is going on these days.
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Like so many others, you resort to insults instead of facts. You say “nutritional deficiency….” Yet when I said that nutrition fixed my bleeding gums that my expensive DMD couldn’t, you call it quackery. And in saying that you are also implying I am too stupid to manage my own health. My mother died of cancer at 41 and spent a LOT of time and money on modern medicine. At 77 I can outperform people half my age, because of Traditional Healing that has worked for thousands of years. Not modern medicine which is a “practice” for hundreds of years.
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I am not insulting you. Unless you were nutritionally deficient in the traditional sense, your story just does not make sense.
If you recall, Steve Jobs died when he rejected modern treatment for pancreatic cancer and wasted time fooling with “alternative treatment.”
Everything must have a scientific explanation. Perhaps you can explain, in specific biological terms, what happened to you.
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Yes, everything in life has a scientific explanation. That is why mankind has made progress in increasing living standards. Through proving or disproving beliefs by scientific research, preferably by double-blind studies.
Pancreatic cancer is only curable if caught very early. Jobs’ was caught early, and he avoided early treatment by his own choice. My son is studying oncology, and he relays exciting advancements at MD Anderson of battling cancer by immunology.
“Alternative treatments” are subject to scientific validation as well. Many such treatments have been scientifically studied. We are constantly revising treatment regimens based on what proves most effective in clinical trials. I have been involved in such clinical trials. You would not believe how complicated the rules are to avoid bias.
Whether a person will live a “comfortable” life after any therapy is subjective, and highly variable depending on individual response to treatment.
It is saddening to discover how gullible certain segments of the population have become to unsubstantiated claims. I see it weekly with my patient base- wasting resources on ineffective or even harmful treatments they see hawked on TV or social media.
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I am not going to respond after this post. You used “gullible” to describe those of us who don’t take Modern Medicine wholesale. That’s me. and you don’t know me. My gums bled from childhood. I went to Dentists every 6 months till I was 60. I did everything they said, and they didn’t believe me, essentially saying I was lying. At 60 a nutritionist changed my diet and my gums stopped bleeding. Facts. Unfortunately, the degradation of my mouth was too far gone to save the 32 teeth I had. I am stabilized now and hopefully won’t lose any more.
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Oh heavens, why would anyone need scientific proof for anything when there are tons of testimonials on TV and the internet?
Kudos to you for finding a credible scientific article about the subject. I browsed the article which is a LITERATURE REVIEW and not a RESEARCH article.
It is worth noting that although caries was much rarer in prehistoric populations, gum disease was not. Which leads one to conclude that a key factor in gum disease is variability of individual immune responses. Prevalence of diseases like Lupus are demonstrative of that variability as well.
Worth noting also is the fact that marijuana smoking and vaping alters the native oral microflora. I see it more and more.
Lyn may well have had a transformative experience due to dietary modification like I have never seen in 49 years of treating patients. Please note the fact that she said her symptoms were just bleeding, and not ligamental damage and bone loss. Many things can be responsible for more gingival bleeding- aspirin ingestion, clotting disorders, and hormonal irregularities. It is not clear whether Lyn merely had gingivitis, or full blown periodontal disease. If merely bleeding that stopped, it could be attributed to increase in Vitamin K ingestion.
There are a lot of health hoaxes out there. They all should be tested by the double-blind studies where possible. One only has to look at the widespread popularity of the disastrous Smile Direct Club to see how many suckers are available to fall for health care scams.
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Thanks, Dede, yes, all the bloggers are focusing on gut issues. I too, wish I had found answers sooner, but I am doing great now and hope to inspire others, especially since insurance and medical care have become too expensive for some people.
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Henrius,really appreciate a professional giving us all this information.I live in the geographic center of So California and the number of dental offices here is amazing.It’s like a dentist on every block.I wonder,with this much competition, how they could all be charging high rates and have enough customers.
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There are SEVEN (!) dental schools in California.
When competition goes to infinity, prices do not go to zero in any type of business. This little thing of overhead gets in the way. Even if dentists were willing to work free, the price of dental treatment would only be 25 to 40% less, as overhead is typically 60 to 75% of collected revenues.
Just interviewed a California dentist. The overhead costs in your state are incredible. Dental hygienists earn $70 to $90 per hour. Dental assistants and receptionist salaries are also high. Rents are very expensive. Electricity is very expensive. Real estate taxes are very high, so rent is high. Sales tax on supplies is high compared to other states. State regulatory burdens are out of sight
Doesn’t matter how many dentists are in your state. The overhead monster still must be paid. Remember these things when you vote for your next governor.
AI Says: Yes, that phrasing is a classic example of a testimonial-style advertisement or a highly targeted marketing hook, often used by dental specialists or specific product brands.
And to boot, the website she referenced is a manufacturer who concocts custom potions for supplement hawkers. In other words, their 3rd party manufacturer.
What a bunch of baloney. “Advertisement” AI is nuts. If every testimonial is an “advertisement” then how are we to help each other and recommend what has worked for us? If this is what forums have degraded to, I am not going to waste my time.
The thing we humans have to ask is “What is the truth?”
People that sell things have a vested interest in claiming, and have others claim, their concoctions are effective.
Placebo effect is well documented. The only REAL way to demonstrate effectiveness is double blind studies, where the researcher does not know who is getting the real med, and the patient does not know who is getting the real med, until revealed when collating the data.
Yes, they are applicable to “alternative healing” modalities as well. Acupuncture has been studied this way, yielding effectiveness only a little better than placebo, last I heard. Every claim must be verified by scientific research. Testimonials are without value.
The trouble is the average consumers lacks the training to interpret scientific research results.
I didn’t see any insult…