# VPN users: site log in errors, or bizarre coincidence? **URL:** \ **Category:** Technology\ **Created:** [July 10, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910 "2022-07-10T22:46:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/1 "2022-07-10T22:46:22Z")
I buy a lot from Amazon so my ID / location has been established for years. I also use 2FA. After installing SurfShark, [which auto connects] I tried to log into Amazon. The 2FA failed about 15 times, [no kidding] Msg said there was a log in error, and I used different methods to get the one time code. Zilch. I got the 6 digit code but none worked. Then got warning emails from Amazon that someone in Michigan was logging into my account. [or trying to] Link sent me to change password. Recalling the VPN, I disconnected it and proceeded with changing password. Logged into Amazon and the 2FA code worked. No strange activity on my Amazon account. So… #1 Did my VPN route me via Michigan, and Amazon, knowing my true location refuse to accept my 2FA? or #2 It’s some bizarre coincidence and VPN has no relationship to log in’s? When my blood pressure comes back down, I’ll reconnect VCM and try again, just to see, but wonder if this strange event is common with VPN’s? ---
**Author:** ![ochotona](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.clark.com/ochotona/32/293_2.png) [@ochotona](https://community.clark.com/u/ochotona)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/2 "2022-07-11T00:37:27Z")
I cannot log into the ServiceNow account of one of my customers if I engage their VPN. Counterintuitive much. Sounds similar. ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/3 "2022-07-11T00:48:01Z")
I asked SurfShark, and as usual, replied with meaningless boilerplate, suggesting I read their FAQ’s. ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/4 "2022-07-11T05:17:07Z")
Confirmed it. Connect VPN, 2FA fails [on Amazon] Disconnect VPN, 2FA works [on Amazon] However, VPN on, 2FA works on both my banks…so it’s iffy. ---
**Author:** ![RasputinII](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.clark.com/rasputinii/32/334_2.png) [@RasputinII](https://community.clark.com/u/RasputinII)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 7:14am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/5 "2022-07-11T07:14:13Z")
Robert: I believe that your banks system has a record of your IP address and will only accept your log in when the IP address matches their records. Of course the VPN discuses your IP and that results in the rejection. I have been rejected from certain sites when using a VPN. ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 7:17am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/6 "2022-07-11T07:17:13Z")
That’s my confusion. The VPN alters my IP addy, so Amazon won’t accept the 2FA. But B/A and Citi both did accept it. Odd ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 8:13am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/7 "2022-07-11T08:13:21Z")
More: tried logging in to another user forum, got this: "If you’re using a VPN, try turning off the VPN. Many people find that just switching off the VPN will get them through. " ---
**Author:** ![H200h](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://community.clark.com/u/H200h)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/8 "2022-07-11T14:14:45Z")
My 2FA failed once while using a VPN. But has worked fine while using it several times since then. ---
**Author:** ![H200h](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://community.clark.com/u/H200h)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/9 "2022-07-11T14:18:20Z")
Maybe your banks are using a higher-level IP address and the one’s that don’t work are using a machine-level IP address. Or… could the banks be using cookies? ---
**Author:** ![Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Jane](https://community.clark.com/u/Jane)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/vpn-users-site-log-in-errors-or-bizarre-coincidence/910/10 "2024-10-17T23:47:35Z")
I find certain streaming services and certain channels online don’t work with a vpn. Some do. Most only give a logjn error message but others tell me geolocation or a vpn doesn’t work. My guess is they can’t use and possibly sell your info if you use a vpn. Since my ip address is through a company based in L.A., CA, I prefer a vpn so all my search results aren’t based in a city 400 miles away but sometimes I must disable it to get functionality. As for banks, they are not all created equal in sophistication. Some of mine will only work on certain browsers, not Brave. I’d think Amazon is interested in harvesting your info, esp. since they are ubiquitous info harvesters.