# Social Security #### **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 7, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001 "2023-01-07T11:56:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SonoranSilkies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@SonoranSilkies](https://community.clark.com/u/SonoranSilkies)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/43 "2023-01-14T02:06:30Z")
> [@NancyM](#): > > > [@SonoranSilkies](#): > > > > I see a shift towards authoritarianism in both liberals and conservatives > > North Korea, Russia, Hungary, Turkey, Phillipines – all authoritarian regimes the Rs “like”. > What authoritarian regimes are touted on the liberal side? You mistake my meaning. I am referring to each side’s lines in the sand of “my way or the highway,” to trying to force everyone to their own viewpoint on pretty much every issue. ---
**Author:** ![SonoranSilkies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@SonoranSilkies](https://community.clark.com/u/SonoranSilkies)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/44 "2023-01-14T02:29:13Z")
> [@butler](#): > > > [@Lavarock](#): > > > > I would love to see a state (and Federal) tax structure based upon consumption (point of sale). > > Me too brother … but the Left will go crazy complaining its regressive. They only want the 1% to pay taxes…no one else. I’d like to see a flat tax on all funds received (not just earned income) (and probably need to exclude Roths), starting at a base level that is at the line of poverty. I can see that tax on businesses vs individuals might be at different percentages, but it needs to be done in a way that closes and prevents loopholes. ---
**Author:** ![butler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@butler](https://community.clark.com/u/butler)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/45 "2023-01-14T04:29:27Z")
> [@SonoranSilkies](#): > > I’d like to see a flat tax on all funds received (not just earned income) (and probably need to exclude Roths), starting at a base level that is at the line of poverty. I can see that tax on businesses vs individuals might be at different percentages, but it needs to be done in a way that closes and prevents loopholes. In other words…simplify the tax code…which is what I said about 30 posts ago in this thread. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![geezerpk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@geezerpk](https://community.clark.com/u/geezerpk)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/47 "2023-01-15T00:28:14Z")
> [@NancyM](#): > > but Rs won’t discuss anything rationally, and will not do anything bipartisan > [@robertpri](#): > > Many would say that goes both ways Well, if the current manifestation of the GOP would come up with some rational proposals, there might be a bit more room for some bipartisan action. Most of the actions the current House is proposing to pass and send to the Senate and POTUS have no chance of any bipartisan support… none. ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/48 "2023-01-15T00:30:28Z")
Still, many would say that goes both ways ---
**Author:** ![NancyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/439d5e/32.png) [@NancyM](https://community.clark.com/u/NancyM)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/49 "2023-01-15T01:50:47Z")
> [@robertpri](#): > > many would say doesn’t make it true! ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/50 "2023-01-15T02:10:39Z")
> [@NancyM](#): > > doesn’t make it true! True. So the left is never wrong? Reminds me of my kids: “She did it!” “No, she did it…!” ---
**Author:** ![butler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@butler](https://community.clark.com/u/butler)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/51 "2023-01-15T05:16:43Z")
> [@geezerpk](#): > > > [@NancyM](#): > > > > but Rs won’t discuss anything rationally, and will not do anything bipartisan > > > [@robertpri](#): > > > > Many would say that goes both ways > > Well, if the current manifestation of the GOP would come up with some rational proposals, there might be a bit more room for some bipartisan action. Most of the actions the current House is proposing to pass and send to the Senate and POTUS have no chance of any bipartisan support… none. Perfect example of the division in the country. My side good…your side bad. We have the government that we deserve! ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/52 "2023-01-15T05:52:24Z")
> [@butler](#): > > Perfect example of the division in the country. My side good…your side bad. Precisely…!!! ---
**Author:** ![H200h](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://community.clark.com/u/H200h)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/53 "2023-01-15T16:38:30Z")
> [@butler](#): > > Perfect example of the division in the country. My side good…your side bad. > > We have the government that we deserve! Its what the enemies of America want us to do. If we keep it up long enough we’ll lose our country… 😐 The threat of military conflict with China or Russia right now is nil… why would they do something to unite us? What they are doing is working. WAKE UP AMERICA! ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/54 "2023-01-15T20:47:34Z")
> [@H200h](#): > > Its what the enemies of America want us to do. “Great civilizations die by suicide, not murder.” [forgot the source] ---
**Author:** ![geezerpk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@geezerpk](https://community.clark.com/u/geezerpk)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/55 "2023-01-15T21:06:22Z")
> [@robertpri](#): > > “Great civilizations die by suicide, not murder.” [forgot the source] The decades-old predictions of America’s impending death sorta calls to mind a famous quote attributed to Mark Twain. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![NancyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/439d5e/32.png) [@NancyM](https://community.clark.com/u/NancyM)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/56 "2023-01-16T00:31:33Z")
> [@H200h](#): > > Its what the enemies of America want us to do. Not only do they want it, they are influencing it by creating rumors, misinformation, chaos (Russia especially). ---
**Author:** ![NancyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/439d5e/32.png) [@NancyM](https://community.clark.com/u/NancyM)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/57 "2023-01-16T00:34:25Z")
> [@robertpri](#): > > > [@NancyM](#): > > > > doesn’t make it true! > > True. So the left is never wrong? > Reminds me of my kids: “She did it!” “No, she did it…!” I don’t know where you got your conclusion from. I didn’t say the left is never wrong. I said that your statement, “many have said…” doesn’t make it true. Just because many people say something, doesn’t mean it’s true. Nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with the loudest voices who are promoted on the media. Sheesh ---
**Author:** ![robertpri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@robertpri](https://community.clark.com/u/robertpri)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001/58 "2023-01-16T01:07:19Z")
> [@NancyM](#): > > because we need different ideas to hash out solutions to the problems we are faced with, but Rs won’t discuss anything rationally, and will not do anything bipartisan. I was thinking of this post. [Previous page](https://community.clark.com/t/social-security/2001.md?page=2)